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Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:06 pm
by magicaldog
I've read the tutorials provided by DSP Robotics but the VST is not mentioned at all.
I've Googled for hours trying to gain knowledge on how to build a simple VST effect plugin to test in Cubase !
No luck !
Since the Trial version runs out after a week it's more than frustrating trying to find info about basic things like this !
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:27 pm
by MyCo
FlowStone is a development software. Although you mostly can do stuff per drag&drop, development software needs developers that read the manual!
That's why you probably don't get a lot of answers for your question. Your question shows that you haven't read the manual, as it explains exactly how to do it.
Again: RTFM!
http://www.dsprobotics.com/Files/V3/User%20Guide.pdfPage 114
For a VST instrument your module will need one MIDI input and two mono outputs. This allows the
instrument to send stereo audio data based on MIDI signals sent from a host.
VST effects can vary. You can create a MIDI effect which takes one MIDI input and one MIDI output.
For a standard audio effect you need two mono inputs and two mono outputs.
Of course you can have any number of inputs and outputs but you’ll need a host that can handle the
data you’re requesting from or sending to it.
Note that the VST button, and therefore the option to create a plugin from a module, will not appear
unless the combination of inputs and outputs is acceptable. You can use the VST or VSTi modules in
the toolbox if you want a template module to use as a start point for your plugin.
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:39 pm
by magicaldog
So Flowstone is a development software, Wow -I thought it was the manual for my new coffee percolator
FYI -I have read it and it says absolutely nothing about the creation of multiple VST components in one VST plugin effect !
I also have the powerful knowledge of a thing called search function and so far I have not managed to find the info for the simple task of creating a VST effect plugin that have more than one component.
I mean how hard can it be when it's really easy to make it with one component but as soon as I have more than one and select all components the vst button for creating the vst plugin disappear completely !
MyCo wrote:FlowStone is a development software. Although you mostly can do stuff per drag&drop, development software needs developers that read the manual!
That's why you probably don't get a lot of answers for your question. Your question shows that you haven't read the manual, as it explains exactly how to do it.
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:13 am
by tulamide
magicaldog wrote:I mean how hard can it be when it's really easy to make it with one component but as soon as I have more than one and select all components the vst button for creating the vst plugin disappear completely !
This sentence shows that you either did
not read the answers and the manual
or that reading for you doesn't mean understanding. For a third time:
"For a standard audio effect you need two mono inputs and two mono outputs.
Of course you can have any number of inputs and outputs but you’ll need a host that can handle the
data you’re requesting from or sending to it.
Note that the VST button, and therefore the option to create a plugin from a module, will not appear
unless the combination of inputs and outputs is acceptable."
In other words: One, and only one module will be your VST effect. So, all components you wish to use have to reside inside that one module. Plus, the inputs and outputs of that one module must meat the specifications.
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:45 am
by magicaldog
So now we are going from simple to extremely complicated
!
That wouldn't be a big problem if the Demo was 7 weeks instead of 7 days !
Now the question is how to make all the components reside inside that one module
I doubt I find that out before the demo runs out so I guess that DSP Robotics wont get any of my money !
I'd be surprised if I do find out how to do it !
It seems like a nice software !
Wonder why German developers have such flair for derogatory language !
tulamide wrote:magicaldog wrote:I mean how hard can it be when it's really easy to make it with one component but as soon as I have more than one and select all components the vst button for creating the vst plugin disappear completely !
This sentence shows that you either did
not read the answers and the manual
or that reading for you doesn't mean understanding. For a third time:
"For a standard audio effect you need two mono inputs and two mono outputs.
Of course you can have any number of inputs and outputs but you’ll need a host that can handle the
data you’re requesting from or sending to it.
Note that the VST button, and therefore the option to create a plugin from a module, will not appear
unless the combination of inputs and outputs is acceptable."
In other words: One, and only one module will be your VST effect. So, all components you wish to use have to reside inside that one module. Plus, the inputs and outputs of that one module must meat the specifications.
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:20 am
by MyCo
magicaldog wrote:Now the question is how to make all the components reside inside that one module
RTFM! I repeat it again!
http://www.dsprobotics.com/Files/V3/User%20Guide.pdfPage 58
magicaldog wrote:I doubt I find that out before the demo runs out so I guess that DSP Robotics wont get any of my money !
You should probably read a manual about "How to read a manual" before trying any software.
magicaldog wrote:Wonder why German developers have such flair for derogatory language !
Yeah, but the German developers were the only one kindly enough to answer your question. All the other think "what an idiot, I don't want to waste my time for such a person". I guess you don't know how stupid your questions are. Here's an example:
In the time of SynthMaker there was no manual! And although there was nothing to get information from, there is actually no thread in the SynthMaker Forum about "how to make a module", or "how to export VST". So thousands of users figured it out on their own!
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:19 am
by magicaldog
Well thanks a lot for that you ........(swearing removed)-Exo
MyCo wrote:magicaldog wrote:Now the question is how to make all the components reside inside that one module
RTFM! I repeat it again!
http://www.dsprobotics.com/Files/V3/User%20Guide.pdfPage 58
magicaldog wrote:I doubt I find that out before the demo runs out so I guess that DSP Robotics wont get any of my money !
You should probably read a manual about "How to read a manual" before trying any software.
magicaldog wrote:Wonder why German developers have such flair for derogatory language !
Yeah, but the German developers were the only one kindly enough to answer your question. All the other think "what an idiot, I don't want to waste my time for such a person". I guess you don't know how stupid your questions are. Here's an example:
In the time of SynthMaker there was no manual! And although there was nothing to get information from, there is actually no thread in the SynthMaker Forum about "how to make a module", or "how to export VST". So thousands of users figured it out on their own!
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:31 am
by Nubeat7
wow, you did a really good start here, macicaldog...
to your question, try the "make module" button in the action panel which apears when you select one or more components or modules...
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:41 pm
by adamszabo
MyCo wrote:Yeah, but the German developers were the only one kindly enough to answer your question. All the other think "what an idiot, I don't want to waste my time for such a person". I guess you don't know how stupid your questions are.
Exactly right. First I was like is this a bot? Then after actually replying, I thought ok he is Trolling us...but then I saw the rest of the replies and I simply thought I wont even bother...
Re: Basic tutorial/guide for building VST effects plugin ?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:23 pm
by Drnkhobo
Is there a section in the manual showing how to reply to people who dont read the manual?