DSP Robotics Support

Hello!

One of my latest milestones to the goal was to develope an addon for the FlowStones Network components. I hope DSP-Robotics will do some improovements on them in future to get them save and stable.

Will first i had do develope a new comunication system (Just imagine that you have to pass on all data through one string link and this live)

So what does it?
You will be able to exchange data betweeen 2 Programms via LAN or also local on your PC
You will be able to exchange data betweeen EXEs, VSTs and Schematics at the same time!
You are able to exchange completly ruby-objects
The Data is stored on Client and Server and will only sync if the data has been changed

Advanteges of the normal Flowstone Modules?
IP:Port or DNS:Port or only IP or only Port are supported - a DNS Lookup is done at clientstart
Every Client gets its own unique ID number (0-255 are fixed - 256-65535 for startuprandom)
some extra settings

What is done internal:
* Server starts
* Clients connects with a random ID between 256-65535
* Server fixes the ID to comunicate with different clients at the same time (ID 0-255 counted from 0)
* Clients stores ID and usis it the complet session till disconect

What is done internal with data?
The ruby objects are queued up in an array - an extra procedure takes each object and exports it as Bin-String.
The Bin-String is splitted each 252 bytes and gets the protocolfunctions. After that the complet Data-Load is sended through the LAN to the reciver that splits up the data and loads it back to ruby - if something went wrong the sender will send brocken data again.

Why useable?
Well the Server is now logical able hande up to 255 clients at the same time - Windows PC-Systems will stop at 10 ^^
every client will get the same data - you may not do anything more here
This thing is now the new Variable-Server that i made some months ago.
And YES - As i told above - you are able with it to exchange data also between 2 seperat programms

To get this all i did a verry simple one shown here with HEX data: (Updated V1.1)


I'll post new developements on this soon - but i think it is now stable

Kind regards
C.Hackl

Greatly done!

I thought it was possible to do network without the FS client modules, but it aint.

To me these are buggy, at least in the former last versions of flowstone as the connection sometimes fails with servers while a browser still can access the server.

You're right

There is a lot of work to do in the Server modules

One Thing that gets me up each time - If you want to send individual data to each Client from the Server, the Server will send them to all - so this causes a lot of traffic in LAN - Not good

And the reason why it is not secure enough:
The Server is not able to disconect from any Client ift the Client does any sh**t in it

So this may be some work in future for DSP-R

Regards

Hopefully the devs will take a look into it, so networking is more reliable.

V1.1:

I did a new schematic Layout and conected the Rubylink wireless - so it is working now paralell like the preset-modules.

New things:
Ping System - Server has now an Arrayoutput with all clients and pings shown
Added example for a knob

File is in first Post!!!!

Regards, C.Hackl

Thanks!

Little Update:

Added an error count - after 5 Oject Parsing errors the client is forced to disconect
Added more Messages to Client and Server
Added Message Log module

File is in First Post!

Regards

Okay, so how to combine such stuff with some sort of coordinator website (php?), so that two separate programs can contact with each other over the internet? I suppose:

- receiver would have to send it's ID (ip plus some sort of codename identifier) to the website/pool,
- these parameters would have to be stored on the website,
- sender would have to get the ID list from the website, so that ypu can select the receiver,
- thus - receiver's list would have to be refreshed from time to time (and receiver would have to send indication of it's presence).
- then sender and selected receiver could communicate in a direct p2p mode.

Is my thinking correct?

p.s.: I have zero knowledge on php, any help (working script) appreciated.

Well the thin is at PHP you have no Option to create a FlowStone-Server.
Ony by HTTP Post it would be an acceptable solution if a good SQL and Server PHP script is behind it.

Next ist, that PHP will never send updates to the client - the client has to request updates from it - so the Server Needs an Option to know what data Needs to be sended... and all this will do it verry laggy and slow - so no Option for a realtime based program.

So if you Need some sort of Server you Need your own Windows Server running.
And also this will get you Problems - the Internet is evil and there are quite stupid persons online - so one hacker just hase to lisen on your Server and will get out all data that is send by the Server. FlowStone does not provide any security on this module - ans eaven if you hav found a hacker on the Server you have no Option to disconect him and bann him from your Server, otherwise you are able to set this up to your Firewall.

So this is quite no Option for Internet at the Moment.

Regards

I'm just thinking about easy way to connect virtual devices "on demand" (time window), without need of manually digging on what is the ip (we mostly have dynamic ip structures here) and without need to coordinate via external coordination (emails, IM's, etc). I have no worries on "evil internet". These virtual devices would either transmit low stream data and/or commands data ("push the button, set the value" type).