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vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:52 pm
by tester
I borrowed vowel filter from SM forum and trying to adjust it for slow modulation purposes.

But for some reason - this thing is dying when I connect modulator pushed through mono4, while normal oscillator does the job.... Values are kept in ranges. Mono's and mono4's are adjusted to fit I/O. Readouts show one thing, headphones other thing.

I'm lucky with dying modules recently :mrgreen:

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:24 pm
by Nubeat7
oh man how do you always find that strange things? :lol:

it works with this "get mono" module, i think it from one of trogs toolboxes? but not shure from where..

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:35 pm
by tester
I work in beta tests from time to time.
Now you know why :mrgreen:

Did some digging and it looks, that it dies only when oscillator is pushed through mono4 unpacking. After redesigning the original osc to standard mono - it worked. So - sending the bug to devs... :-)

Thanks for reminding me Troggies works. They bring some light on the problem I guess.

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:30 am
by tester
Nubeat7 - do you have mono4 unpacker that would work correctly? I can't find that version of Trogz tools with "get mono fixed" (have in older version 3.5a, which isn't working too).

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:46 am
by Nubeat7
just the one from the example i posted above, isnt it working on your machine? it is working here..

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:34 am
by tester
The "get mono" above works, and I think i found where it's placed on SM; I was rather thinking about replacement for "mono4 -> 4x mono" extractor. Otherwise - 4 copies per 1 extraction needed.

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:07 pm
by TrojakEW
Something like this?

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streamin in;
monoout one;
monoout two;
monoout three;
monoout four;

push eax;
fld in[0]; fstp one[0];
fld in[1]; fstp two[0];
fld in[2]; fstp three[0];
fld in[3]; fstp four[0];
pop eax;

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:03 pm
by Nubeat7
TrojakEW wrote:Something like this?

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streamin in;
monoout one;
monoout two;
monoout three;
monoout four;

push eax;
fld in[0]; fstp one[0];
fld in[1]; fstp two[0];
fld in[2]; fstp three[0];
fld in[3]; fstp four[0];
pop eax;


also dont works in this example!?

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:16 pm
by tester
TrojakEW wrote:Something like this?

Code: Select all

streamin in;
monoout one;
monoout two;
monoout three;
monoout four;

push eax;
fld in[0]; fstp one[0];
fld in[1]; fstp two[0];
fld in[2]; fstp three[0];
fld in[3]; fstp four[0];
pop eax;


This one dies. From what I can see - it may have to do with some additional instructions in ASM code (shufps and some difference in numbers). So either is the formant filter from SM somewhat buggy, or the pack/unpack is missing some security. To my limited understanding it would look as if somethig was sharing the same memory, thus readouts show one thing, and schematics do the other thing.

Re: vowel filter and modulation problems

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:18 pm
by TrojakEW
Doesn't shufps only change channel routing? Mask 94 in original code output channel in order 3,4,2,2 while 78 sets 3,4,1,2.