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Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:10 am
by jjs
Seeing your error, you could try to remove a DIMM from your PC and try again with some less memory. If it is still the same error, try it again with an other DIMM. If the error stays away then you know if a memory bank is defective.
If the error returns with either bank installed then it is not your memory.
Not all faults will be detected with memory checkers.
As the error says it cannot read a certain memory adress, it could probably be one of the DIMMs.

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:30 am
by billv
CRASHING ON START-UP BUG FIXED

Here's how...

I googled "referenced memory"-followed the trail till i got to this little bit of info..

Method 5 – Run System File Checker
Another possible solution is to run the built-in system file checker program that comes with Windows. You can run it by going to Start, Run and typing in CMD. At the prompt, type the following command:
sfc /scannow
Then press Enter. It will scan all the Windows system files and replace any corrupted or deleted ones.

I did that and got a window titled "Windows File protection", and a Body that reads
"Files that are required for windows to run properly must be copied to the dll cache.
Please insert your XP Home Edition Cd now"..
Did that and then got another window with a progress bar, and a body that reads..
"Please wait while windows verifies that all protected Windows files are intact and in their original
versions"
The bar stopped about 12 times, asking me to retry the disk. Process took about 30 to 40 min.
I re-booted and FS worked. No issues.

Don't you hate it when the "developer was right"...... :oops:

Good stuff out of a bad thing: :idea:
this "CMD prompt of sfc /scannow" seems like a great alternative to the desperate " new install
to fix windows" problem that appears every few years.

Thank you to all who helped.

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:23 am
by nix
OMG!! 8D
Now we can share files mate

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:17 pm
by trogluddite
Welcome back to the club, Billy - great to hear that your frustrations are finally over. :D

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:55 pm
by billv
Yeh, It's great to finally get on-board. FS seems to be a whole new ball game.
Slowly downloading everything from examples, to see how everyone is approaching this ruby
thing. Every file is an eye-opener..............will take me a while to absorb it all.
Just a simple knob for me is confusing, as I don't code-so it's uphill all the way. :)

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:58 pm
by trogluddite
billv wrote:very file is an eye-opener..............will take me a while to absorb it all.
Just a simple knob for me is confusing, as I don't code-so it's uphill all the way.

Yes, quite a change from what we're used to. The cool thing is that all the old green stuff is still there working pretty much like it always did, so you can mix Ruby in a little at a time - there's no rush to cram in all that info. Reports of old SM projects broken by FS have been very rare, and usually easy to fix, so there's no hurry to start re-writing everything.
Even if all you ever use Ruby for is as "green code" for writing maths more easily, it will save no end of time and messy linking.
And any Ruby based modules you download from the forum will work just as well whether you understand how they work or not! There's already a thread going about "modularising" some of the new Ruby features so that they can be accessed more easily for non-coders - there's no reason at all that everyone should have to be a "Ruby guru" to benefit from the nice new toys.
Once you get a little up that learning curve, I think you're going to like what you find though. For the kind of interlinked event triggering that you have in your 'X' series, I think it has a lot to offer - and you present a lot of your parameters using really intuitive graphical displays; which is something else where Ruby shines.

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:53 am
by billv
Good advice as always Trog. Thanks mate.
Thing is.....ummmm.... I spent a few hours staring at the "Timer.fsm", and saw how easily
i could just work around the code( exactly the same way i did in SM) make the module do what
i want and then move on. But this Ruby thing is different, you can see the "genius" of it, in a
simple knob where the almost the whole damn thing is wrapped up in one piece of code!!
So for the first couple of weeks/months, I'm determined not to cheat like i do in SM. :D
I found a great thread in examples, "Ruby for noobs" which looks like a "Step by Step" Tutorial.
I really can relate to "Step by Step" Tutorials. Wish their was a whole section of these, cause
its one of the best ways to train someone. ( just like your World famous Trigger tutorial!).
I will fail with Ruby, that's 99% certain. But if i can just get the "Gist" of it, it will come in very
handy when i start to customize modules that have ruby. Hope to get a little confidence boost so
I don't go in blind as a bat into "RubyHell".
trogluddite wrote:here's already a thread going about "modularising" some of the new Ruby features so that they can be accessed more easily for non-coders

i downloaded a knob, that fits that description. Another eye-opener. There's no way around it Trog.
I feel like a Tradesman who has been given new tools to work with, so have no choice but to explore
all the different options before i start creating anything.
trogluddite wrote:"green code" for writing maths

Is that why I can't find a Int or float Multiply?? I got to use Code for this???? :o :shock:
Now I'm in the s**t. Never passed a maths test ever, and I don't code.(Apart from a little VB)
Deeeeeeppppp S**T :D :D

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:29 am
by nix
there is a new prim for green multiplies,
that is called a 'smart' component.
Search 'multiply',
and you will find the prim with blank connectors.
just connect it to make it learn which data type you want,
or right click to select.
Cheers

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:40 am
by billv
nix wrote:Search 'multiply',

I did that and got nothing. Must have typed it wrong. searching manually and i failed too.
Time for a closer look.
Cheers

Re: Crashing on start-up

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:59 am
by nix
If you click the little arrow at top left of toolbox,
u can make sure you have no filters on.
by rights it should show